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Its funny how quickly he wrapped everything up with me once he got that call. I googled the address and found out the companys name is Primerica Financial Services (I dont even think he told the name). Contrary to rumors out there, Primerica is not a pyramid scheme. Here is another good read that breaks down how much the corporation makes just from recruits, and reps: The company and product reputation aside, as a source of personal income they truly fall shortgenerously speaking. There is no selling of opportunity because all we do is find out what peoples dreams and goals are in life (youve got to know what they are first) give them a game plan and tell them to act on it. Clearly if one can do that for another, one should be able to pocket a nice income Once she quit her little dissertation on the gap between the upper class and middle class and how the middle class can become upper class with our help, she told us to wait as she brought in the guy who had written the review for the company (5 stars. When called at home, I got a vague assurance that I would be a good fit. The plates say something like A-TEAM. This morning I received a message saying he was looking for 7-10 people to fill various roles in his office and wanted me to let him know of candidates. A little bit of time, perhaps? And if done ethically, sales is a service so dont mask your phone pitch as helping out people financially. If people have to pay for your help, you are selling. We chat like we did before she mentions that her daughter Mariah (not her name, but I want to stress the weird detail that the name WAS a variant of her own). Like the Dread Pirate Roberts, Ive known far too many preachers to take them on their word alone. If you join Primerica your commission schedule is ridiculously LOW. . Primerica offers web-based learning materials and a practice exam. And they didnt even give me a heads up. You all have it wrong, you all WANT to see that this is a scam because It looks too good to be true, and it IS, if you have zero work ethic, and refuse to give yourself the opportunity to have a better life by actually applying yourself to something that isnt a 9-5. She also told me she was just leaving church lol. I drove out to the location, got there 15 minutes early, so I sat in my car. Number 1 only matters if you want to turn Primerica into your FULL TIME BUSINESS. Good luck to you all on your future endeavors. He called me the next day and I missed his call. You are describing practices that are barred from current procedures, and the law. If you look at the market cap of Primerica, it is very small compared to Metlife, or even my regional bank of PNC. Yesterday i was called by a man who said i was referred by my best-friend josh, who was his cousin. Then why was he so eager to get ahold of my stack of resumes, leads I had paid for?? And they came from very humble beginnings working 9-5 jobs now they are free and independent! A review of their Company of Destiny report big earners chart, once applying the fine print written below it, reveals that only 1% at best, of all the reps in their entire history since 1977, ever broke the $50k level, once or more, during any best 12 month rolling window. This is just like Aimway, they make you sign up and promise you, you will make money fast and easy. Many, many years ago, when it was A. L. Williams, I was approached, and even attended one of their informational sessions. He set me an interview for 3:30 PM, but by 1:30 I had already read these reviews I decide I wasnt going to go to the interview after reading all these reviews. I like to hear about the successes towhat did you find out about those that succeed at this? Its not a business. A lot of people like in this blog are used to trading their time for money, going from one job to another. On the day of the interview, I drove to the adress of where the interview was, I expected a big company with a sign of the name or something. Since 2009, Primerica has recruited 1,502,173 people. I gave him my actual SOC. Sorry, I am not signing any employees up for any more pay deductions if theyre not getting the services. One person wrote that she heard people cheering YES we do that because we support the people who are working and we give accolades to them. Lies and time wasting leading to a quick fumble at your wallet. I didnt have time to listen to the whole message at first and wanted to Google the company before I returned his 1 and a half minute message. I called her back to be polite but she didnt answer. Thank God for the info I found out on the inernet. The reason for a lack of business card is actually the business model of Primerica. I feel really bad for them. At the time I was desperate for anything that could get me more money. There was literally no way of knowing. With all the information on the internet available to everyone, it is crazy to me that people do not at least look up the people and businesses they are considering getting involved in. Being very analytical, I would have not had a good interview with another manager in a different company. I received invite to interview I got the call from a woman saying she got my rsum from monster. I would STAY AWAY from Primerica. I sent him a follow up email to try to nail down a time again. BBB Business Profiles generally cover a three-year reporting period. It is really not an insurance company, it is a distribution company that relies on a pyramid to fund the upper class there. So glad I did. Its performed nicely and Ive never had any problem with the company from my standpoint as a customer. Scum Bag Scammers! I spend my time with people who show up. Another pause, then I saw his face relax a bit as he gave directions for the office and set up an interview for 6:30pm that night. My parents make good money and know how to save. Why the need for secrecy? Shove that $99 fee up your keester. Good thing they never call me again. I spent an hour on the phone with Vice Presidents in three different areas. They use the classic BAIT and SWITCH for everything they do. On a non related note, why are the people supporting primerica, speaking like assholes and calling everyone stupid and lazy for speaking their minds. I was definitely lied to when I first was contacted by the woman. Even if this is a legit company, the financing industry was never my thing. I said no and he sounded surprised. They want to interview me tomorrow at 1pm. Taller than me by a little, he had slightly bigger hand but no grip. He had pulled out a 4-6 page brochure that explained why everyone needs their services. I was in Primerica back in the early 90s when it was called PFS (Primerica Financial Services). Feeling like a big dummy and annoyed with myself for giving the man my personal number, not to mention the fact he knows where I work and may come back and try again. I remember hearing negative things about Primerica, but that was in the late 90s. I wasted time I dint have wasted my energy got myself siked up for NOTHING! GREAT!! Googled my way here. Its not a business, its a scam. Wow was not expecting it to be such a rabbit whole. ALL THEY WANT IS YOUR MONEY . This is a multi-location business. 12 hr days and have to many days off, I have time to put into a might work job to help me out for my goals in life. OK if that is the case then why are you driving a 1995 Toyota Civic AND why does your wife work FT AND he also had a PT job at GEICO!!!! I literally didnt know the name of the company or the position until i walked into the interview. Blah blah blah blah. And a sidenote when I exchanged info with the wife in target her android phone had an app on it where my full name showed up on her phone. From that, I just wonder why he wants my wife to get involved on this.. Lol! I will go but the moment I feel like Im being pitched, Im graciously declining and peacing out. Then she texted me and asked to meet her this week for coffee. I returned her call on Monday and it was all very vague. But I again dismissed the thought, feeling a bit guilty for doubting John. Thats an MLM just you stay broke. A page comes up that seems to refer to that but it quickly goes away and the main Primerica website comes up. I should have listened to my gut in the beginning. 1 PRIMERICA PARKWAY DULUTH, GA 30099-0001 UNITED STATES . A long time ago one of these assholes gave me a card and took my info, sadly I was told it was a scam after I gave my info. Hadnt I just provided 5 local contacts? Thanks for the info. He asked if I had a job and I said no but I need one. It is not a MLM or they would have been charged and gone the way of most MLM. The graph had 1 gent at the top and every subsequent tier had exponentially increasing members making exponentially less money. Over 8 years ago but never did insurance with them. Once again, most people need financial help to get where they want to be. To those who did not get what they expected, please ask yourself if you did what you were told, if you persisted, if you actually did the work. Wow. Then we proceed to training and moving forward. She asked for my number that way her trainer would contact me to set up an interview. Some people are so desperate for money that they are blind to this. You need to pay 99.00 for a background check and need my sos and license. He couldnt have known that I am a three time college graduate, having obtained both a diploma and honours degree, in the fields of law and computers respectively, so why on earth was this happening? Im on vacation. So glad I decided to do some research before going back. A former classmate of mine saw my Facebook post that I was looking for part-time work and called me. I was (and still am) working as a cashier when I was approached by a woman pushing a stroller. The rep said she got my resum through Monster and wanted to give me an opportunity. They are a publicly traded company on the NYSE. I reluctantly agreed and was hired I went home that day and looked for primerica on the Internet and at how it is a scam. ?, Dont you want enough money to rent a space for your classes? About a week later she calls me. I raised my eyebrow, curious as to how he could explain that one away. Mike No matter what they tell you, MLM is not a business. They are sharks looking for their next meal! As soon as I answered I heard someone making silly sounds and I wondered if it was someone I knew but no it was the gentleman who said he was calling me because my friend had recommended me for the job before I was a hard worker and he wanted to know if its true..we began talking for a while. Can be a plane, train or automobile. She kept saying opportunity rather than job, or career, and my attempts to get more detailed information were deflected with promises of being answered later or at the orientation session being held the next day. * Mercedes sells their cars at inflated prices, are you going to do an web post on them next? You can get a reasonable life insurance plan as a AAA member and should deal with a real bank or well known investment firm with your money, people! Im scared for my friend but I want her to figure it out on her own so she can see what this really is. Got invited to a "meeting" at their office. I thought the man I was working one on one with , who was soooo nice was helping me set up online banking , which is what he said , but in reality he was going into my account taking money out which he said they were not gonna do unless I signed up for the classes at a later date. So, with that experience under my belt, life goes on. Hey Alex, this isnt the first time and wont be the last time a crooked company has rung the NYSE closing bell. No, Primerica is not a pyramid scheme. The man calling me in for an interview was very abrupt and gave very little information, besides the address and time. This may be the part where it comes together to the point where people say they hire anyone. I gave him my phone number and when I asked him for a business card he said he did not have one and went on to talk about how he makes 3-4k a weekyeeeaaaah. thats why Im not going back they called me 3 time to reschedule but I did not pick up the phone. They are in the business of selling real estate. I got a call at work late last week from a man who said hed overheard my conversation with another customer and was very impressed and wanted to talk with me about a position with his company. I received a call and was told someone left my name and number on his desk. I got a random call on my cell phone from a Primerica Financial Services rep in Charlotte, N.C. Said his office manager was trolling the Internet for resumes and found mine. Primerica is the greatest opportunity to have your own business ever created. So with each sale, that is one less client to sell to, forever!!! if you dont have the internet, you hear about my place. What a shame. Question you investigate insurance fraud correct? I blew it all off the moment I was dismissed. Either I pay on that time or I can pay after a week If I get hired and it will be part of the hiring process. Ironic, since recent grads are the least likely to be able to afford to pay to get into this crap. if i clock out, it doesnt matter, they need help. The difference was the leadership at Cutco wasnt as slimy as the women who interviewed me when I got introduced to Primerica. does anyone here even know what a actual pyramid scheme is? I went up to him and asked him about the office manager role. He signed on right there because he was impressed with their house. My daughter was contacted by Primerica and she told them I was looking for a job. If you're familiar with MLM schemes like Primerica, Optavia, Evolution Travel, Beachbody & American Income Life they are pretty similar to Transamerica's MLM scheme. Oddly enough, the guy who put up the review had the same last name as the woman who called me to interview. Ive recently begun with Primerica. Im not sure why the internet continues to say PRI is MLM. I had come across this blog a few months back after hearing about this scam. Report investment scams by state-licensed companies to your state's securities administrator. For any agent to be paid any comm. I then sat through the presentation which also seemed legit because the two presenters just seemed so down to earth and passionate about helping the common man (except the guy who kept bragging about his house and cars). A recruiter found me on Linked in and said he was impressed with my resume and feels I am qualified for a position again like everyone else I asked for more information and very vague did he explain to me the concept of this company. I put down my 5 usual references for jobs and returned the clip board to the receptionist. Humans are not numbers! Primerica is a SCAM period. You should be ashamed of yourself for writing an article as false and untrue as this one. Each year, millions of people work hard in MLMs and do exactly as theyre taught, and they still lose money. He tried recruiting me so I took the interview mainly as a courtesy to him. His home was nothing to envy and neither were the cars in the google image when you looked up his address on google maps. I totally see it now. im so agree i wonder how they got my info. I would seriously consider investing in the company since, realistically, their pitch is great for the uninitiated and their motivational tactics (weekly motivational conference calls and meetings at fancy/lavish venues) work on those that take what they pitch at face value. Can I get your number, and maybe we can chat? I say sure, never expecting to hear from her again, and leave her my number. Right before the presentation I actually heard ex boss whisper to the young sales man, I thought that this would be somelow hanging fruit for you and nods to me. When I started asking for e-mails and more information about the company. Yeah definitely not going to this after seeing the mass amount of negative comments. I was livid but had to go along so as to get out of there. Take this down before i file a complaint. He told me he worked with Primerica before it was Citigroup, and to hear that made it sound great because Citi is a huge opportunity in my area. I get to work on my own hours without having to report to ANYBODY. Other insurance companies do the same thing but Primerica is ruthless. A man named Jack has recently added me on Facebook, first thing I check for with people I dont know adding me is their friends list, their About section and the consistency and validity of their posts to make sure theyre real and not some spam account. Thank god for the internet and all useful information we find on it. *69 doesnt block the outgoing number. Primerica is a legitimate multi-level marketing company based in America. Money / Side Gigs. I could hear a party going on in the background and the aroma of delivered pizza hit my nose. Its just that the whole experience left me somewhat unnerved. She then proceeds to pitch to me what Primerica does and how important life insurance is. It's a scam, he has to pay for his training, doesn't get paid for time training, some commissions are based off those who work under your recruitment pyramid. same here. My interviewer did not have a copy of my resume. Fact remains if you had joined the Primerica team and never reached any level of success you were probably not even trying and waiting for something to be given to you. He said he absolutely understood that and that his office was new and he had many openings. etc. Forbes predicts Primerica will do to financial services what Amazon did to retail! THIS IS A BUSINESS, and youre too lazy to work for yourself or want to educate people on their finances. I need legitimate workdont toy with me. They talk about these bad reviews during training, saying they are written by people who tried the opportunity and failed. It came off exactly as I anticipated, money, money, money, completely scripted and complete with props and pictures. A meet and greet with the manager and then into the position details. As I read these comments, I am curious as to if the author took the time to do a THOROUGH investigation of this company. If youre reading from the bottom up, pay close attention to what Tom (June 2014) & Anonymous with Accounting Degree (January 2015) have to say. Those are games we leave for the devil. I just didnt understand.. when they hired me on they told me that referrals would pour in and we never cold call.. in fact the company prohibits it! complete with fake hearty chuckle. With all of you. I graduated from college last month and primerica does prey on with people who are unemployed. She then insisted on calling me on Wednesday to remind me of the appointment and said I was lucky because the vice president would be there on Wednesday -_-. What a joke. People who work jobs get paid. I've written about Primerica in the past, questioning whether Primerica is a pyramid scheme, and whether PFS is a scam. I just went to a meeting last night, everything previously written by past people are true. I offered to quickly mail her one, as I had not brought one myself (I already had bad vibes, so I didnt even bother bringing a hard copy). LOL, Lol thanks God I look it up and they give you such an hope like youre about to win big smh I waist my time dressed all nice thanks God I didnt register yet Im done with them. My resume is purely engineering, not sales. But you can throw away a full barrel of apples because a few are rotten. Write by: . Now, I did not get asked to pay anything and was told that Primerica would pay to have me licensed, but I was also told to come back for an open house to learn more about the company. no phone. I sold Cutco like ten years ago and while I had a fun summer doing it and actually made some decent sales, I would never do it again. A few evenings ago. These MLM ventures seem to prey on the 9-5-ers making minimum wage with the promise of making a six-figure income. I made a decent living $30,000, but its much harder than most people even imagine and it truly does require that you do oodles of prospecting. As far as positions, I havent even met you yet, how could I know what youre qualified for? Listening again.. I still like her, she seems nice. Vanguard, Smith Barney, Fidelity, etc are all good. Im scared after reading all this that i fell for this scam and now he has all my info. I told them that Id have to think things over, though it took a couple of times for me to say that so that they understood. I went for the so called interview today and was completely confused and turned off. Got a random call for an interview for a job as a trainer that I never applied to. Primerica just needs to do everyone a favor and be upfront about the type of business it is. I started to say but I thought and my face must have conveyed my thoughts because he impatiently rolled his eyes and cut me off, lowering the mouthpiece slightly, look, were not supposed to, but Im here to run MY business and I know what gets results.. This is a scheme. I went to all of the trainings thereafter, but it was the most painful thing to do. They offer it at a price they term affordable for all families. As for life insurance itself, a small whole life policy with a reasonable death benefit can be helpful in protecting your spouse if you die suddenly. And for easy monthly payments of only $25 Im really glad I came here, because they hadnt even gotten around to mentioning the other company fees yet. They prey on the uninformed, they want your warm market, and your warm markets warm market. SCAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. Schemes use generalizations. I got a random call from a guy name nico saying that I was referred to them and they have a job opening and I could scedual a interview for me and that I should come dressed business causal and come on time because he is a busy man. Like Im not with all the talk and I need proof. I got a call today. Amway. Mr. John A. Addison Jr., Co-Chief Executive Officer. He then mentioned that my job was a pyramid, and asked if it would ever be possible to get to the top in my company to which I responded, ABSOLUTELY!!! Primerica is an insurance company. Overall sounded ok but things started to not add up. Im really glad I found this, but sadly the damage was already done. Surely a man that professional-looking would be deterred by someone as inexperienced as me in the room, I rationalized to myself. Toward the end of my time there, hed told me he wanted me to set up Primerica as the retirement investment for employees. She didnt mention the name of the business at all, and her explanation of what they were doing as others above have noted was rather vague but revolved around financial planning. The people that I know who were roped in were all pretty dumb with no college education and in a dead end job. She lost her job and became an easy target from a fast-talking recruiter that filled her head with a pipe dream. Primerica provides term life insurance at a price that's quite affordable to most families. Well, I didnt stick around to find out if it would work or not because I stopped going once me and my mother got a bad feeling about the company. When they first came I noticed his wife was wearing a dte coat, I asked jokingly what company is this opportunity with, Primerica or Dte? I thought everyone wanted/needed our products and opportunity. Only two other rooms seemed to be in this building, a walled-off office and a copy room that was more or less a bump off the main hallway. I Googled the address and found out it was Primerica. The VP told me about the $100 fee and the test and how much money I could make working for primerica. Many new agents are brought into insurance sales through Primerica's recruiting effort. not something good to be involved in. Currently have a few positions available. The women who spoke on their first visit asked what Im looking for in a career and mentioned I was very impressive with customer service. They WILL continue to call you even after you have said no. You will be expected to go out and find new victims to sign up for the scam. If your goal is endless chain recruiting, you are scum and you belong in a company like Primerica. Tuesday evening came around, time for the interview. To the last comment, the most draining 2 months?? Yes many consumers arent sophisticated about insurance, which is why it can be easy for a Primerica rep to sell them a crappy product at a higher price. Personally I have been in the company for 4 months and I have seen what a scam it is. They tried to get me to come to a meeting next Monday with the VP, but with my work schedule and doctors appointments for my two disabled children, that wasnt in the cards, so they tried to get me to show early for work tonight and I again said no, so they set up a meeting at 1:30 am tonight after I finish work. I will not be going and now I dont think Ill give them any more of my time by giving them notification either. Anyone with money who makes a good living does not discuss that in open form with people at a so called job interview be smarter than the rest of us , cancel , complain and dont let them take advantage of you. In Primerica, the game is recruiting into infinity. A woman approached me and complimented me on my bag, asking me where I got it from. MLM is not a business: http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2015/03/multi-level-marketing-is-not-a-business-its-a-pyramid-scheme/. I showed up for the interview and no one knew who I was supposed to be speaking with. Suddenly it occurred to me, who knows what that really means in context. And this place is playing with peoples hope?! The company has been in business since the late 70s and has steadily grown throughout the years. Financial investments 6. Now YEARS later Im getting calls from them. The truth is that the interview is no interview at all. Sam The position of trainer really means RECRUITER. You knowthat phone call that you set up when youre going on a date so that you have an easy escape if you need it?? I listened to the representatives pitch and decided to do the research like many of you on here. There seems to be a way to make money but you have to be highly deceptive and cut-throat, oh, and pretty desperate to make money in MLM. Take time to get out of dodge. After reading all of comments, I will not be going. I retired from a 20 year career in the U.S. Air Force in 1993. they quickly muttered PFS. Financial Needs Analysis 2. Their higher up had done that for them. He seemed so angry, I thought. It was an apartment looking complex with no name, nothing. But to shut down a business just because over 100 of you said it was crap and the rest followed after you did your own research. As someone whos in commission sales- I feel bad for people who fall into companies like this one. We both said yeah and he gave us his wifes number and took our numbers down. It was fishy at first, but I thought the best of it. I wasted a month of my busy life and thankfully, I already maintain a good internship at a wealth management firm and did not leave it for such stupidity. Afterwards I was a little bit unsure Id made the right call I am unemployed, after all, and work is work so I googled Primerica Scam.

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